(10-13-2014, 08:04 PM)ParadiseReturn Wrote:(10-13-2014, 01:43 AM)Balsa Wrote: It's hard to decide what to post when it comes to Terence McKenna, but I enjoy this one: Cosmic consciousness and UFO's.
Undoubtedly one of the greatest minds of the past century. Wonderfully entertaining and brilliant. It's when you get to the 35 minute
mark that the doors really begin opening.
It's been a while since I've watched or read McKenna, but this is the best - now I feel like I'm beginning to "get" him. I hadn't realized he was so aligned with is it Sheldrake? His description of "Paradise" is brilliant - absolutely inspirational. All P2 should listen to this youtube.
The thing that bothers me about "return," and even "rebirth," is that they suggest repetition or going back ... except if we understand that all life is spiralling vortices of the electric universe, as your other video gets into.
I'm not sure about his idea of a return to nomadic life, but I agree that natural medicines and experiences should play a much greater role in our health. As a medical cannabis patient, I've gained a completely different perspective on these kinds of issues. I greatly appreciate the value of many other natural medicines, like turmeric, cinnamon, garlic, cayenne, and homeopathy, which includes so many other natural medicines, with no danger or side effects, little expense and pure cure. The natural "psychedelics" are gaining recognition as being of major benefit to those with PTSD - sidelining of the horrendously suffering victims of life's worst, while filling them with another kind of money-making poison that never cures?
The political implications of all of what he's suggesting are extremely interesting and I know we could discuss it for hours, but I don't think that's the point. Do you have any kind of vision for how things could, should become?
This video combines elements of both your posts, and this is a quote from a comment below:
"Nearly all original Indigenous culture was a culture of RENEWAL, a Dreaming Culture, such as Australian Aboriginals put it… "
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First off, I didn't want to write something this long and I'm sorry about that. It's just a lot of ground to cover in my view.
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I know that Terence McKenna took the topic of drug use as a serious form of investigation, and not as something to be taken lightly. To my knowledge, he also always took considerable pains to make it clear that drugs, on the whole, aren't to used for vehicles of escape, and he is very specific about what plant life contains what compounds and that the entire idea is to enable a user to access specific physical realms, stressing that these are tools and not toys.
At any rate, when you get to the implications, they are that some specific organic compounds act as bridging apparatus , or some sort of redirection compounds, like a page redirect on a quantum level, where we meet alien life forms, or at least possibly alien probes, and that we are physically being transported to another dimension. We begin to see there is a connection which is showing the human mind is being interdicted, and this seems to be affirming that the human mind is only attached to the body, or flows through the body, and that the mind is incorporeal. That it is capable of transcending time, space, and dimensions.
Thus, the interdiction of the mind through organic compounds, specifically created to interact with the human brain, is detaching the aware mind from the body, and this is critical since it is the aware mind, the conscious mind, and allowing it to cross in to another dimension, or realm, and that is what this all seems to be showing. In other words, the incorporeal reality of the minds existence seems to be demonstrated through these interactions with advanced alien dimensional life forms, and which seem to be highly advanced, and are being made possible because of some redirection effected by the organic compound. This is what Mckenna often say's. McKenna is telling us this stuff can prove to you that these other worlds are as real as this one, and then he goes much deeper with the idea of a collective consciousness, or an alien consciousness which is creating phenomena and trying to communicate with us, and here he's speaking about UFO's, Crop Circles, and other phenomena as manifestations of the reality of the human minds incorporeal existence and it's cross connections with other incorporeal beings.
From the rulers paradigm, I feel that the primary goal of prescription medications is to specifically fulfill some aspect of their intended purpose, but to primarily make sure that any medications which might be invented aren't going to be resulting in connections with other dimensional beings, and that McKenna tells us are possible with certain organics. Thus the idea is to create in the minds of the uninformed that drugs on the whole have essentially on one effect, and this is specifically what McKenna is denying.
It seems to me that if any single human would be qualified to make that denial, that all drugs have the same over all effect, then it would be Terence McKenna, and that is what he does say and it is the reason he is known. Since we now are living in a slightly more elevated state technologically, one might surmise that a compound which can interdict the normal perception of one dimension and redirect it another must then be inducing a precise change in some primary control which the receiver operates on. If this is how Universe really operates, upon planes of quantum realities, or something similar then it only makes logical sense that precise tuning results in precise receptions, and this is sort of what Terence McKenna seems to be suggesting. I also think this would go a long ways to explain a great number of things.
One thing I found interesting is how some of these being are described as resembling bouncing balls which can literally jump in to and out of you,
and of course we all know about Orbs so one might think there is a possible connection.
According to Mckenna, it isn't that the mushroom is itself intelligent, but that it was programmed to interact with the reception of the human brain in order that these alien intelligence could then interact with the ape creatures of this planet, whom we must suppose are then being contacted for some particular reason, as the specific compounds in specific organics all result in the same effects upon humans.
If Mckenna is right about this, and which I think Dr. Schwartz and others are suggesting as well, is that this idea of the mind as a receiver or temporary repository of an incorporeal body, which we call us, can interact with a collective consciousness and also that there are planes
of existence which form a sort of sub-space where most of life seems to actually exist.
Finally, as for how things should be? Well, they shouldn't be as they are now obviously. I think that if a new generation can get this message, and work from there, then humans can move forward, and that without this message this world is doomed by the reptilian minds of the self appointed
rulers. I think it is that simple.
One curious thing once mentioned in the Webbots, that the self appointed will begin vanishing in mid step, along with their bodyguards, and what
all of the aforementioned does suggest to me is that, if enough humans deem it so, then they can make it so, and here I'm speaking strictly on a
mental plane. Evidently, when or if the collective of humans decides these people are so unworthy of existence, on this plane, they will be able to vanquish them by merely willing their existence out of this plane of reality, and this seems to say that this might actually happen as kind of collective hatred emerges and grows.
Sounds good to me.