Saving Animals / False Gods (Migrated Thread)

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09-23-2014, 06:49 AM (This post was last modified: 09-25-2014 09:53 PM by balsa.)

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Saving Animals/ False God(?)
DreamBase 2.0 2014-09-16 By Elyse
http://www.nationaldreamcenter.com/dream..._False_God

Introduction.
Hello everyone, I'm not sure I'm posting this correctly, but doing my best so that anyone interested can locate the dream from the attached link above. I have also been communicating with Eagel1 a little bit, and specifically because of this dream by Elyse. Consequently, Eagle 1 invited me to start a discussion on this dream, which I am happy to do.
I might also mention that I belong to another private discussion forum. A very small group who discusses all things related to Clif High's predictive linguistics, and where I have tried to hone my thinking and analysis of the future upon these poor readers as well. This is brought forward so that it is understood I have an understanding of the origins of this specific site as well as some understanding about the methodology involved.

This dream by Elyse is a critical and important dream. Perhaps it is of great importance. It is very long dream, very involved, and I believe one could write a book, or long essay on this dream alone. Maybe someday someone will. In my mind it is of importance at a personal level for people to comprehend the messages contained in the dream. This dream is both a warning, and a forecast. I feel very strongly about the significance of this dream, and about the entire way in which it enters in to the realm of the mind, for it is in many ways as though it were coming through at the level of the human soul. This is of great import. This is, I am quite sure, a dream which involves the soul. Do mistake my assertion as some sort of religious based concept. This is no mystical dream of powder puffs floating in the sky. However before one goes launching off to seek information about the soul, you would have to first understand this dream as a message about this matter, for It specifically addresses issues I've been analyzing that cover several topics of seemingly unrelated material. These topics are not unrelated of course, but they could seem that way to some people. Indeed I would say it is almost impossible to get people to see the relationship, and this too is thoroughly encased in the dream. Nevertheless, it is my belief that the only way to understand this dream is to begin by considering that it is addressing the human soul. Only recently have I come to a comprehensive understanding on this very subject. That is, as it relates to events in our own time, the past, and the objectives of some energy in the future. As I said previously, this is not a fantasy, not illusionary, or delusional. It involves both the understanding of the nature of reality, our best information from both science and ancient knowledge, and some objective on the near future. In short, what I believe are the pieces to a vast puzzle were finally assembled by me only in the last few days prior to reading this very dream.

Now, this dream appears and I find it, like manna from heaven, after having just posted a hypothesis about the objectives behind changes in bankruptcy laws and the massive debts which are on the backs of most people in a private communication only a few days ago. Again, what seems unrelated to dream about Saving Animals and False Gods is anything but, and in order to understand this may involve a good deal of effort and free thinking by those who are having trouble seeing the connections. So let me now move to the dream itself. Now it's difficult for me, posting the first time, to decide where to begin with this. This dream has a very important message. I am quite sure about this myself. My goal is to try to show how important.

let me just begin this discussion with an introduction to core of the dream, and it is through the understanding of the core material in the dream, in it's allegorical form, that the truly important message is to found, but I will leave this message out for the time being. For the message is as distrubing as it is terrifying. So, let me begin by stating that, "The false God" in the dream is either money or relief from money. Most likely in the form of debt forgiveness. The dream specifically and repeatedly focuses upon willingness to freely go with a false God. This is a specific reference to free choice. Then the dream talks about these people going away with the false God who are deprogrammed.

No doubt you may have noticed a slight biblical coloring to these things.
There's very likely a reason for this. I would be happy to discuss why I believe this is the case.

All the other references seem allegorical. Many of us have already experienced many of these ourselves first hand, and here I reference the beginning of the dream where it involves lots of involvement with animals in an attempt to help save them, and to get them to get along with each other: An impossible task in some cases, and then there are the species themselves in the dream. In other words, this dream is bit like reading Herman Melville's Moby Dick, but without the advantage of a team of liberal arts college professors to help explain it. So many things going on.

Therefore I ask you not to become too lost in the hunting, trapping, and other involvement with supposed animals. For these are not actually animals at all, but rather our own species; we ourselves are represented in animal form in the dream: A very natural thing for the mind to do in my opinion. I suppose I should just end for now and hope you will all enter in to a discussion about this dream.[/size]



09-23-2014, 08:55 AM  
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RE: Saving Animals/ False God(?)
Hi Balsa,

Here is a correction for the link: http://www.nationaldreamcenter.com/dream..._False_God

You need to click on the dream title to get the specific URL for the dream.

It's too early in the morning to put my brain to work about this but I have noted that you've made a few very valid points about dream content and possible futuristic implications.

There are those spiders again! :-)


09-23-2014, 08:55 AM  
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RE: Saving Animals/ False God(?)
Gang,
Yes...Balsa approached me awhile back and explained the phenomenal background that could really help us explore some possible new directions at the NDC. Balsa's entry was timed perfectly coincident with when the DreamReader concept was being formed by Rebecca and myself.

Anyway, talk about a perfect match...someone who purports to be fluent in dream interpretation AND linguistics analysis...sounds like a DFer to me, right? However, get this...Balsa's expertise isn't just any sort of dream interpretation, but the very uncommon type that focuses on how the dream will come true later (i.e., all the stuff the NDC is concerned about.)

What is so paradoxical here is that Balsa comes Clif High's back yard. Clif High catapulted himself to stardom with the original "Webbot," but interestingly distanced himself from the NDC in the original forming months. It surprised me to hear that Clif actually had a denigrating opinion of dreams in general and became yet another wedge between the previously tight duo (G.U. and C.H.)

My purpose isn't to bore everyone here, but rather give a little bit of background to show why Balsa will be a valuable addition here....lexiconical reading and equally matched by dream symbololgical interpreting....look out!

Time permitting, please everyone dive into Elyse's dream and supply some comments here.


09-23-2014, 02:53 PM  
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RE: Saving Animals/ False God(?)
Thanks Eagle1, I've had great teachers before, and hopefully I will live long enough to have a few more. Teaching is about inspiring, it isn't about cramming information in to heads. That is actually the reverse of teaching. Now, this site is involved in a pioneering effort of which it's full potential can hardly be known. I don't believe human history is yet written. I believe that what exists is only the creative process of the consciousness of life. Which includes all life, and which is critical to our own survival. It may be that without this life, there is no other life as we seem to exist in a symbiotic relationship exterior to this so-called reality.

We have a bunch of insane people running our world who's idea is to murder most all life in order that they should control and dominate the world in a way which has not previously existed. If we are unable to change the paradigm, then life will cease altogether for all humans and all animals. They do not understand what they are doing and everything is dependent upon us working to change the outcome of forces bent upon a scheme for which they have no understanding of the consequences.

When I asked not to become too bogged down in the story line about animals, I might be completely wrong, and maybe someone has another opinion about that. I have since considered removing that part of the original post.

I see this dream as an allegorical story about the future as well as the past. With the dreamer trying to save people, whom are put in the context of animal forms. Conversely one could suggest that a link to animal consciousness which is trying to tell the dreamer something. In this way it is perfectly natural in my view for animals to communicate with us in a way which would make sense to them. Not to us perhaps, and so the context of the point of view must be switched.



09-23-2014, 04:24 PM  
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RE: Saving Animals/ False God(?)
Well said, Balsa.

I like this, too: "I see this dream as an allegorical story about the future as well as the past."

For all of going forward, dreams are sometimes allegorical and sometimes literal, but ALL the time, they have elements of both past and future in them. It's up to us to decipher which it is.



09-23-2014, 11:15 PM  
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RE: Saving Animals/ False God(?)
I'm not going to comment on Elyse's dream right now. I have read it but it is too huge for me with the short amount of time I have available. Balsa, I will say welcome again. I a looking forward to working with, and learning from, you.

Chris, after reading Balsa's post in the Dream Interpretation forum I too saw DF'er. What is interesting, and critically important, to me is the way in which Balsa interprets the dreams. Balsa, you are phenomenal! Anyway, why do I say critical? My dream interpretation comes from being able to tap into oneness and see the dream metaphors as they pertain to ascension and the spiritual path of both the dreamer and humanity. When I read a dream that calls to me I feel a humming energy throughout my body. The thoughts come so fast I can barely keep up to write them down.

What I am not good at is being able to make future predictions based on dream analysis. This was the crux of my call for help in the other forum. I'm hoping I can develop this skill. Hopefully, Balsa, you will have patience with me as I attempt to learn from you. I'm looking forward to it. I will add my thoughts about the dream itself once I have a chance to gather them.



09-24-2014, 08:30 PM  
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RE: Saving Animals/ False God(?)
Sorry, I haven't been on since Elyse posted her Koo dream, but I really wanted to thank all of you for your input about my wife's dream. I try not to influence her recollection or anyone's interpretation of her dreams, in fact the only input I gave was to suggest that Koo could have been spelled Coup. My wife has no choice, but to have these dreams and she is very insecure about sharing them. I truly appreciate the consideration you all have given Elyse's dreams and have found some significance in them, because my wife always looked at them as more of a curse than a blessing due to the negative imagery. The National Dream Center has been a Godsend by allowing Elyse to explore the possible meanings embedded in her dreams and allow her to not just suffer alone in the confusing and often unnerving nature of her dreams. Thank you again for providing this service that allows Elyse to share her dreams and gain insight into their meaning.



09-24-2014, 08:51 PM  
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RE: Saving Animals/ False God(?)
Thank you for sharing your wife with us! It takes time to remember and type out a dream sequence, particularly those that are so incredibly detailed and long...yes, the very adjectives that typify the dreams your wife submits!

She clearly has a very special gift that is honored here at the NDC. The only problem is that we know Elyse and the many others who are here are not the only gifted dreamers. There are SO many more who get chastised and misunderstood for the dreams they have. Not here...no way. We honor them.

Thank you, sir, for the wonderful comments here, and we all bless your growing family! Your comments are always welcome, jhgary.



09-25-2014, 09:37 PM (This post was last modified: 09-26-2014 06:52 PM by balsa.)
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RE: Saving Animals/ False God(?)
Saving Animals/False Gods?
http://www.nationaldreamcenter.com/dream..._False_God

I'm going to offer an interpretation of the dream. I fear this important dream is becoming lost. I'm going to present it in two parts as there are two parts to the dream in my opinion. As with all dreams, even frightening ones, I typically find lots of humor coming from the Universe.


Part 1: Capturing Animals

The first few paragraphs of the dream is self descriptive. It describes the nature of the dreamers relationship to life. The hunt to capture animals can be interpreted ethnocentrically in allegorical forms. That is to say, it is descriptive of dealing with humans instead of animals. In this sense, and throughout the dream, the animal types (species) represent individuals whom themselves are essentially archetypes which are then assigned an animal form best befitting their personality, sex, age range and so forth. For example, one might look to the mention of ferrets and see that animal as an archetype of preteen boys, whereas, kittens are children and little girls.

"I had to rescue and take care of different animals from the woods. I had to hunt them down which took some time, then capture them to bring them home with me. Capturing them was fairly easy since they all seemed to like me and didn't put up much of a fight."

So we have children lost in the woods, frightened of adults, and hiding, but a child's instincts tell them to look for an adult who will help them. Consequently, when Elyse shows up they don't resist much. It seems Elyse is capturing lost children, and these include a wide age range. She doesn't allow them to immediately interact, but introduces them slowly, probably parental instincts going on here. Some get along, and some prove abusive and potentially dangerous. She slams the boom on these, whom are likely malicious teenagers.

"The next animal I tried to introduce I knew would want to eat the kittens if in the wild. But I had hoped that now it would somehow become friends with them and maybe even protect them. This was some sort of medium large animal, but I can't quite remember what it was. Maybe a wild cat of some sort or a wolverine type animal."

Hmm...does this sound like a teenager to anyone?

She is also relentless in her quest to protect her new charges. She spots a "Large Grey Spider," and it's hanging around something, which she can't exactly recall, but which is used often. Fearing for the Kittens (children) she decides the threat is too great and must be eliminated. Now interestingly she decides to use bug spray, and this whole story line about the bug spray and problems it creates in itself is worth a second thought. Something threatens the childern/kittens and she uses poison to eliminate that threat. In fact, systematically begins to eliminate these spiders where ever she finds them. This isn't a woman to mess with when it comes to parental values. If you're hanging around posing a threat to kids you've just signed your own death warrant. A sensible spider would head out of that place and build a web as opposed to trying to get a free bit of blood off some kid.

This activity could be a form of injecting ones own self in to the plane where the dream is existing. In other words, an attempt to take charge of the dream is an actual attempt to alter the course of the dream, and this is significant. It isn't just another extension of the dream which I presume to be a depiction of an event at some place in time. So the dreamer, Elyse, begins to interact with an event, as opposed to just visualizing the event and reporting it back in a form best suited to her own mind. She pulls out her handy bug spray eraser and begins to rewrite the script to her own liking.

It is noteworthy that about the time her parental instincts take full charge in the dream, and after she's had enough of this spider nonsense, that the entire dream get's cut off. That is it ends. So the question arises, was she beginning to alter a future event?

Typically, the analysis of dreams are at personal levels. However, I'm thinking that, whereas a persons dreams are involved in our own problems, it is this very personal link which forms a bridge to a specific portion of the slipstream of dream time, and which depicts other events in the flow of the prospective future, and which themselves relate specifically to the dreamer at a personal level. Hopefully this makes some sense. Dreams speak at many levels precisely because of the way they link to the stream of time through the consciousness of life. We are not then frozen to this analysis because every element could be interpreted at a personal level, which in my view (right now) is what does enable these sort of connections to such seemingly screwy stories. Hopefully the logic to this reasoning can then make a seemingly screwy story become an intelligent piece in a larger puzzle. Thus the mind is receiving a message from the slipstream of time in the only way it can relate to it. Either because it needs to protect itself from the true information, or because the information is outside of that minds common frame of reference. However, there is another explanation which comes to mind as to why we receive information in this manner. It is possible that Universe, who is a great trickster, just does it this way for entirely personal reasons and which would logically give a considerable amount of control over the information. Thus what we know is what we are allowed to know.

Based on this concept, I believe Elyse is viewing a future event that was enabled by her own nature and current connections and concerns with her duties as a parent. It is when she begins to alter the dream by taking upon herself a campaign to eradicate spiders that the dream comes to an end. So the dream appears to me to be a snapshot of an event in time someplace. It would also seem reasonable that there is some kind of connective path, of some sort, which the dreamer is following or being guided along. The idea being each dream is like a piece of scrap to a mosaic that is part of a total picture.



09-25-2014, 10:47 PM  
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Alrighty! We've got some meat to work with now, but I'm anxiously awaiting Part 2. I'm recognizing that you and are attacking this problem from different directions, and I'm actually fascinated by it. I was purposefully going straight toward collectivist-type dreamreading, actually attempting to wholly bypass the big or small meaningful aspects to the individual. I believe I mentioned exactly that in my first Project August report, where I have little use for the part(s) of the dream that mean something to the individual. I was looking for big broad brush strokes.

You, on the other hand seem to be headed in the same direction (i.e., seeking events that matter to the collective), but it appears that you're going to turn over all the stone on the way. I think this might actually bring us extra depth and detail that we would have otherwise lost in headlines past. I have my ideas about what your method will yield, but will sit on my hands and just watch.

Excellent start; please continue





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09-25-2014, 11:02 PM (This post was last modified: 09-26-2014 06:59 AM by balsa.)
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Well, I made a couple of tune-up's to the post where I think it has sort of broken down, but essentially it's intact and will leave it where it stands as the first part.

Yes, I think it's clear that there is a chain of data being received. The rescue description could come from any number of places in time, but the manner in which the information has been consistently presented to the medium does not say to me that this is a regression, or regurgitation of previous life experiences, or of any similar vein of potential excuses. My experience is that regressions are made quite clear when they are coming out of the past. I see no evidence of that here or in the mediums' other experiences.

I feel the rescue story is naturally linked to the continuation of the dream, and this then will provide us some frame of reference. A time line I don't know about, but perhaps road signs warning about dangerous curves ahead, well that seems doable. In other words, when the white ship dude shows up, I don't think that he's going to be hiding the fact, more like marching bands and propaganda so thick you can't escape it anywhere. The problem for many will be to see the truth behind the false prophet.



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RE: Saving Animals/ False God(?)
http://www.nationaldreamcenter.com/dream..._False_God

Saving Animals/False Gods?

Part 2

Note, this dream may be interpreted metaphorically or literally and I have primarily chosen the later based upon previous dreams of the medium Elyse.

"I can't remember a whole lot in the beginning. I was living next to a seemingly endless ocean in a house with many other people."

So this then is the opening line to the second installment of the dream. What more can you ask for? Well, for one thing, it's sort of gains a lot more significance if a person grasps the nature of the mind/body interface, and appreciating this in what it potentially implies is critical to the entire story. The body senses are a net product of an electro-chemical reaction producing motive forces and reactions to stimuli. It also contains an organ who's primary function is to act as an interface with other energies, such as an electromagnet'o field of energy. These energies are the conduits for the consciousness of our mind which flow in to and out of our body.

The most critical organ for the reception of consciousness appears to be the brain, and our brain is like a junction box feeding input from the biological body back up stream to where the consciousness of the mind exists. The medium (Elyse) describes the home of consciousness as a rather large house alongside a vast endless ocean with lots of people living in it. The suggestion is that the mind is exterior to the body. Officially, this idea of the mind existing exterior to the body is denied. The essential argument being that, somehow, the biological net effect of chemical and electrical products results in consciousness, and that all that we are is contained inside our brain. A highly dubious proposition since we can't even account for 96% of the known Universe. It is most unlikely our present science can claim any significant understanding, despite claims to the contrary, when 96% of the material in the Universe can't even be found, let alone explained or recorded in any capacity. So it's patently absurd to believe for one second that we really know much about anything given that kind of titanic ignorance.

Alright, so preceding with the dream now, we go from the description of the place where we all live to a snow storm which is gathering outside. We are dealing with a metaphor here. An impending crisis upon humanity which has never previously existed, yet it is one which the medium somehow has already known was coming and has prepared for.

"There was a snow storm outside. There was several feet of snow and the sight of it surprised me because the most snow I've ever seen in my lifetime was a VERY thin layer on the ground... THIS snow was so deep that everything was buried beneath it and all I could see outside was a blanket of white. I had known about the snowstorm and had prepared my family plus a little extra for others in case of an emergency."

Technologically speaking, we have arrived where a concerted effort is being made to understand the mind. The key word in this movement is "Trans-Humanism." This idea is the concept that the the mind can be downloaded in to a microchip, or some other storage container. That with this notion the troubles of life can be left behind. Consequently, if we follow the perspective of the medium, then, the snowstorm is an event which cannot be explained by any other known events in human history: Not plagues, not wars, not anything else. It's a new threat of some kind, and the threat is represented by the storm itself. The storm is a metaphor for what can be seen coming our way, and this is the notion that you can download your mind in to a machine, or a storage container of some kind in order to transcend life as a human being.

Now, as I've been struggling along with trying to put together part 2 of the Saving Animals/False Gods? I've been in communication with the medium Elyse. Since the Universe enjoys poking fun at me, it decided to make sure I really got the message. Considering me an especially stupid human, Universe took the extra precaution of having the medium Elyse send along the proverbial picture of exactly what it wanted communicated, and it is exactly what I've just proposed to all of you, and that picture was of a reel to reel tape recorder. No, I'm not pulling your leg about this either.

This is symbolic, the reel to reel recorder is a symbol of recording human speech. So the picture of such an antiquated device, which uses magnetic tape, is a clear message about recording people and which is what trans-humanism is all about. In theory of course.

Like, OK Universe..got it..."the threat is like a tape recorder."...now must you.. really... seriously? For Petes' sake, I'm on it, you can let up now...Good Lord!. Sending me a picture of a tape recorder...honestly! So obviously this idea is fairly important, otherwise Universe wouldn't be doing this kind of direct hand delivery. Not really the way it usually works, and by the way, the reel to reel tape recorder is both a jab at my age, as well as telling in itself: Real to real, and magnetic tape.

Now lets jump down to this interesting line.

"I had warned others of the storm, but not everyone would listen to me. I felt sorry for those who didn't listen, but was prepared to take care of the ones who came to me seeking shelter."

By now you might be sensing an almost Biblical feeling to the dream. The idea here is that you cannot have a False God without this feeling. Biblical then is a key to the dream, as much as it will be a key word to focus on as time progresses forward. You cannot have a false God without the death of God in one sense, while having the invention of another God. This idea of everlasting life over death is Gods' promise; is it not? Now do you see the False God? The promise of everlasting life inside a machine? Look around yourself, who is doing more to kill the idea of God than religion itself? Every single one of the three major religions are throwing themselves upon a funeral pyre as we speak. With God theoretically killed, who then will take his place?

Ok, so as we progress in time the death of religion is going to grow as the corruption is revealed with in those system, and this is going to facilitate the blindness to the growing threat, or snowstorm. The whole snowstorm metaphor is the continual acceptance of the propaganda which will be and has been selling the idea of life inside a machine. You should be able to see a story line has been developing over time though mass media. Movies like Tron, The Thirteenth Floor, and I'm sure many more.

Let's now look at the next several lines in the dream.

"I noticed a group of people fighting the storm to come to my home and went outside to greet them... but in the ocean there was a very strange ship. It was a white ship, but it was very odd looking. It was like some super futuristic cruise ship maybe... as if someone had merged a cruise ship with a UFO." Something about it gave me an odd feeling. It didn't feel good or bad, just different. I wasn't sure if I should be scared or not. There was a male entity there. He called to the group of people to come with him to the 'light' which was the ship. I knew that if they followed that man into the ship, they would die and I screamed for them not to listen to the man.

Obviously a white robed male and a white light are archetypes for God himself. God does however seem to have some kind of ship he arrives in and which is made of light, which in the dream is described as a combination cruise ship and a UFO, and many UFO's are described as balls of light, which might better be described as a craft encased in a plasma field of energy. It is also significant that the ship of the False God is set upon water, as water is dielectric, and that this ship is not entirely made of light but appears as a blend of both a futuristic cruise ship and a UFO.

The Sumerian pictogram for God is a basically a an upside down bowl which is shown hovering over water.
Quote by Elyse:as if someone had merged a cruise ship with a UFO
So does that look like the bottom of a boat hanging underneath the symbol for God?



This image was originally shown on Youtube in an recorded lecture by renowned ex-Vatican translator Mauro Biglino, now famous for his revelations.

Now there's a lot of people out there who understand physics far better than some person like myself. I am not going to attempt to explain how light, which is energy, which is what plasma is, can then bend space time and warp the local gravitational field resulting in anti-gravitational effects, but it can, and neither am I going to try to explain how bending space time with a field of light can distort time, or can result in invisibility, and a host of other effects which would appear to seem like magic. If you are new to these ideas you could begin by looking up Dr. Robert Mallets proposal for a time machine using high powered lasers focusing light in an intertwined spiral that forms a tunnel, inside of which a person could theoretically move backwards in time.

There is a great deal of available information about these subjects out there for anyone who cares to inform themselves. Besides this, almost everyone now knows there has been a secret space program going on for decades and that the TR-3B, or whatever the latest one is, is a human made anti-gravitational space ship, and it's been filmed repeatedly and is clearly man made. Not to mention the ridiculousness surrounding the attempt to extradite and prosecute Gary McKinnon. If that one doesn't convince ya, then nothing will. So some humans have this technology right now.

Moving along, the rest of dream repeats with a message of the False God appearing and asking if people want to go with him. It is seems that there is no physical force involved. That is, you must willingly go along, and this is key. For you must be so deluded as to believe you will escape some earthly problem, or so rewarded for abandoning life itself that you willingly choose this. Seemingly at every point in the dream the people abandon their lives to some kind of promise. Even a child of the dreamer won't listen to his own mother and decides to go with a complete stranger. It is an abandonment of convention, of the nature of life, and it is seeking some easier pathway which permeates the dream itself. The dream also shows a breakdown in the connection between a parent and a child as a family unit, with the child not even bothering to ask if he could go with an otherwise complete stranger.

I saw a vehicle drive up the long driveway to our home. The man in white from earlier got out of the vehicle and walked up to our house... for some reason, this terrified me and I went out to meet him, hoping to keep him as far away from my children as possible. When I met him outside, he was warm, calm, and polite as he talked to me. He said something to make me feel like he considered himself God.

Whoever this False God is, there is no fear of being attacked or killed in any way, nor is there any fear that anyone can intervene to prevent another person from going with him. So of course he feels he is a God. At this point you may be thinking this is hopeless. Ah, but it isn't. What defense is there then? Your defense is that you choose life with all its' problems and heartbreaks. You're happy with being stuck in a wheelchair, or being in debt forever, or whatever else, because life is nothing more than a temporary condition. To understand this is to go back home to the house the medium described so that you can once again set sail upon the limitless ocean. If you chose the other path you will be put in a can and there you will stay until the can breaks and then you will be gone, as in not returning back home, because you must return home through the body. That is how the nature of life works, and not through a manufactured or other artificial device. This is the message which the medium is telling us through this dream. Now a little more of the biblical feeling flows in because if this idea of downloading your mind in to a machine is to be taken literally, then wouldn't that involve some kind of numbers on microchips or whatever else is involved in this idea, and wouldn't that also mean ever lasting hell if you then discover that without your body there is no regeneration or trip back home?

Keep in mind, I'm not at all religious, but I think the meaning is clear if we respect the messages from the medium for what they appear to be. On the other hand, all the praying and church going in the world isn't going to help a person one bit if this dream is in fact a prediction for a future event. Not if you don't understand what it means to be human, and that apparently is the basic bottom line. There is of course another way to interpret the dream using metaphors, and undoubtedly a dream this complex involves multiples of reality upon metaphors. For now we will stick with a literal interpretation before considering at least one other metaphoric angle on this False God.

My son bounced out from inside the house and the man in white talked to him and asked him if he wanted to go with him. I tried to scream no or go to grab my son, but I was paralyzed... but paralyzed in a warm way which kept me from feeling the fear and horror I knew I should have felt. It was weird... but all I could do was stand motionless as the man put his hand on my oldest son's shoulder and walk him to the vehicle.

This paralysis, with the associated side effects, are descriptions of physiological effects, not of some irregularity in the dream which is rather closely following a script. Needless to say, any serious understanding of the minds' connection to a biological life form as existing through a flowing stream of energies, exterior to the body, could explain these symptoms if they were interrupted. I do not think this paralysis description is a metaphor for normal parental fears, such as the inability to save a child, which is a common nightmare for new parents, and which could then be used to rationally explain away this nightmare. This would be removing the story line of the dream from it's context and treating it as an individual event. Furthermore, these same effects have been repeatedly observed in relation to UFO's. This would then say we have a description of a technological method which enables a temporary paralysis, and this again is a common description given along with encounters with UFO's. Now Look at the next line.

Once in the vehicle, they drove off. When they were out of sight, I was able to move again

Now we move back in to the dream world and the human condition with all the ridiculousness of being pitted against such a superior force. The medium Elyse describes getting her husband, finding a "old rickety boat," and then rowing out in to the ocean without a clue where they are going and yet they somehow find the ship of the False God, because after all we do have to understand what is going on don't we? So some convention is invented, however absurd, and in order to accomplish this objective of finding the boat. Now here's where it get's a little more interesting.

Amazingly enough, I was able to find the boat and we entered it very sure that we had not been detected. There were a few workers in white marching up and down the halls every great once in a while. In fact, I was sure I had been seen a few times, but the workers just walked by as if they didn't notice me

So what is described are people without will. Zombies for all practical purposes, and oblivious to anything around themselves. It's unclear if this is a metaphor for how people are living and will hence follow one another to their doom, or if it is actually an observation of mindless people aboard this ship marching to their doom as mindless slaves. Most likely it is both. Elyse and her intrepid husband continue on and they stumble across empty rooms packed with all the personal possessions of the people who've left with the False God. This is clearly a reference to a holocaust in progress. Such piles of belongings have entered the psyche of public consciousness and are now archetypes for mass murder.

Auschwitz, Poland, Piles of clothes in a storeroom.
Auschwitz, Poland, Piles of shoes in a storeroom.





Now another thing which crops up in this on board ship search is the discovery of the False God who is lecturing a bunch of people. It has a feel to it like we are seeing some kind of infomercial. A metaphor for selling is my feeling. In other words, self brainwashing by buying in to bogus explanations typical of the professional salesman.

It is at this point we have to ask if the False God is himself a metaphor for